Comments on: KVM DVI Switches: Why So Expensive!? http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/ I say potato, you say potato... Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:56:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jigglywiggly http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-140053 jigglywiggly Sun, 11 Sep 2011 10:58:09 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-140053 Still don't understand. What's so hard to solderl ike 30 cables and a little electrical switch for the whole thing? That wud cost like 10$ to make! Still don’t understand. What’s so hard to solderl ike 30 cables and a little electrical switch for the whole thing?
That wud cost like 10$ to make!

]]> By: james bond http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-133862 james bond Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:13:57 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-133862 y so expensive ?? one can do this thing manually with just one extra cable,to make this thing automatic i wd rather buy an robot or teach my dog how to do it. y so expensive ??
one can do this thing manually with just one extra cable,to make this thing automatic i wd rather buy an robot or teach my dog how to do it.

]]> By: ss http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-128561 ss Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:00:00 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-128561 yes, if i had unlimited taxpayer funding available to me, i too could afford to buy $500 dvi switches (& $900 hammers) just like the US military does. yes, if i had unlimited taxpayer funding available to me, i too could afford to buy $500 dvi switches (& $900 hammers) just like the US military does.

]]> By: Lawrence Sobel http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-119039 Lawrence Sobel Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:22:58 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-119039 kvm switch Hi Hung, I Please recommend a usb, single link dvi-d kvm switch for the following system: MY SYSTEM • macmini computer with single link dvi-d port • 23” Apple Cinema Display with single link dvi-d port. It is connected to the macmini • 17” pc laptop [lenovo W700 2758], I haven’t received it yet. The Lenovo website gives conflicting information about the video port: div-d [dual link], div-i [dual link], and the person who ordered it for me but hasn’t received it says it has a vga port, as he said most laptops do. It is probably a vga for which I would have to a vga to single link dvi-d adapter. Can you recommend an apdaptor, • usb Apple keyboard, and usb Apple Mouse • usb HP b/w LaserJet P2015dn printer • usb HP Officejet 5610 All-in-One color Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier • speakers • 2 identical G-drives [500GB G-DRIVE Combo (FW400/USB 2.0, G-Technlogy Inc.)] The external hard drives have usb and firewire ports]. One drive is for backup [time machine], and the other drive is for cloning. The G-drives are connected to the system as follows: PRESENT CONNECTION for g-drives – all firewire connections [but could use usb connections] ¶ G-drive #2 [clone] is daisy-chained to G-drive #1 [time machine] ¶ G-drive #1 connects to the FW port on the monitor as follows: ¶ There is a single cable that comes from the back of the display, which neatly goes through an opening on the aluminum stand. This single cable splits into 4 connection cables: (1) power cable connects to the power brick [transformer that connects to power source]; (2) DVI cable that connects to the Macmini; (3) usb cable that connects to the Macmini; (4) firewire cable that connects to the Macmini. I think that the usb and firewire connections to the Macmini permit use of the Firewire & USB ports on the monitor because they are activated by the Macmini, But I am not sure about that. I will leave the printers and external hard drives connected to the macmini as they are now. So, the kvm doesn’t need to have usb ports for peripherals. BTW, the pc laptop will be dedicated ONLY to running a medical software program. I envision now ONLY having the laser printer and the all-in-one printer hooked up to the laptop via the kvm. I don’t need to access the internet for the laptop, and I prefer not to expose the laptop to viruses. I will connect a third usb printer [actually a color all-in-one printer] to the laptop using a wireless option. I have never used wireless peripherals but I assume some sort of receiver/transmitter would have to be connected to a usb port on the laptop. Is that correct? Got all that? Please respond to the following email address: With appreciation, Larry kvm switch

Hi Hung,

I Please recommend a usb, single link dvi-d kvm switch for the following system:

MY SYSTEM
• macmini computer with single link dvi-d port
• 23” Apple Cinema Display with single link dvi-d port. It is connected to the macmini
• 17” pc laptop [lenovo W700 2758],
I haven’t received it yet. The Lenovo website gives conflicting information about the video port: div-d [dual link], div-i [dual link], and the person who ordered it for me but hasn’t received it says it has a vga port, as he said most laptops do. It is probably a vga for which I would have to a vga to single link dvi-d adapter. Can you recommend an apdaptor,
• usb Apple keyboard, and usb Apple Mouse
• usb HP b/w LaserJet P2015dn printer
• usb HP Officejet 5610 All-in-One color Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier
• speakers
• 2 identical G-drives [500GB G-DRIVE Combo (FW400/USB 2.0, G-Technlogy Inc.)] The external hard drives have usb and firewire ports]. One drive is for backup [time machine], and the other drive is for cloning.
The G-drives are connected to the system as follows:
PRESENT CONNECTION for g-drives – all firewire connections [but could use usb connections]
¶ G-drive #2 [clone] is daisy-chained to G-drive #1 [time machine]
¶ G-drive #1 connects to the FW port on the monitor as follows:
¶ There is a single cable that comes from the back of the display, which neatly goes through an opening on the aluminum stand. This single cable splits into 4 connection cables: (1) power cable connects to the power brick [transformer that connects to power source]; (2) DVI cable that connects to the Macmini; (3) usb cable that connects to the Macmini; (4) firewire cable that connects to the Macmini.
I think that the usb and firewire connections to the Macmini permit use of the Firewire & USB ports on the monitor because they are activated by the Macmini,
But I am not sure about that.
I will leave the printers and external hard drives connected to the macmini as they are now. So, the kvm doesn’t need to have usb ports for peripherals.

BTW, the pc laptop will be dedicated ONLY to running a medical software program. I envision now ONLY having the laser printer and the all-in-one printer hooked up to the laptop via the kvm. I don’t need to access the internet for the laptop, and I prefer not to expose the laptop to viruses.
I will connect a third usb printer [actually a color all-in-one printer] to the laptop using a wireless option. I have never used wireless peripherals but I assume some sort of receiver/transmitter would have to be connected to a usb port on the laptop. Is that correct?

Got all that?

Please respond to the following email address:

With appreciation, Larry

]]> By: Patrick http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-73796 Patrick Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:05:16 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-73796 Hey Richard, I admit I have a $2000 PC, $500 24" monitor and $400 printer but I found a 2-port DVI kvm for $175 is very expensive! With that money, I can get an 19 inch monitor. When you compare with VGA kvm, I got one for $20, that's about 12% the cost of a DVI device. If the manufacturers can lower the price, I'm sure more people can afford and "willing" to pay for it. Hey Richard, I admit I have a $2000 PC, $500 24″ monitor and $400 printer but I found a 2-port DVI kvm for $175 is very expensive! With that money, I can get an 19 inch monitor. When you compare with VGA kvm, I got one for $20, that’s about 12% the cost of a DVI device. If the manufacturers can lower the price, I’m sure more people can afford and “willing” to pay for it.

]]> By: Richard http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-44667 Richard Mon, 12 May 2008 09:17:29 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-44667 In some ways you guys are right, a switch can be made to go from one computer to another quite easily and cheaply and it will work, probably, some of the time, might need to re-set it every now and then, video quality might not be up to much, will be some problems with compatibility here and there but then what do you expect for $25? However, getting a switch that minimises the degradation of the video, will not fall over, is compatible with ALL keyboard and ALL mice, supports DDC and two page EDID information to ensure there are no issues with your graphics card is complicated and is expensive and we've not even introduced DVI into the equation. DVI is very expensive and very complicated. A single DVI-I signal is equivalent to about 4.5Gbps of data which is one of the reasons it is so difficult to extend much more than about 30ft with out having to introduce some sort of compromise. A cheap DVI switch (and $175 is a cheap one, our cheapest will set you back $500) will have to have made some compromises in its design but most home users pottering about on the web and doing some photo editing (low frame rate) will not notice. Start playing games or playing high resolution video through it and all of a sudden you will realise why it only costs $175. My company specialises is 'no-compromise' KVM solutions and our customers include military, broadcast and media and CGI film producers, they won't touch a $175 DVI switch with a very long stick. It is very complicated and very difficult to get right. It always amazes me that people wil spend $2000 on a PC, $500 on a display, $300 on a graphics card and hook it up through a $25/175 switch and complain that it is expensive! In some ways you guys are right, a switch can be made to go from one computer to another quite easily and cheaply and it will work, probably, some of the time, might need to re-set it every now and then, video quality might not be up to much, will be some problems with compatibility here and there but then what do you expect for $25?

However, getting a switch that minimises the degradation of the video, will not fall over, is compatible with ALL keyboard and ALL mice, supports DDC and two page EDID information to ensure there are no issues with your graphics card is complicated and is expensive and we’ve not even introduced DVI into the equation. DVI is very expensive and very complicated. A single DVI-I signal is equivalent to about 4.5Gbps of data which is one of the reasons it is so difficult to extend much more than about 30ft with out having to introduce some sort of compromise. A cheap DVI switch (and $175 is a cheap one, our cheapest will set you back $500) will have to have made some compromises in its design but most home users pottering about on the web and doing some photo editing (low frame rate) will not notice. Start playing games or playing high resolution video through it and all of a sudden you will realise why it only costs $175.

My company specialises is ‘no-compromise’ KVM solutions and our customers include military, broadcast and media and CGI film producers, they won’t touch a $175 DVI switch with a very long stick. It is very complicated and very difficult to get right. It always amazes me that people wil spend $2000 on a PC, $500 on a display, $300 on a graphics card and hook it up through a $25/175 switch and complain that it is expensive!

]]> By: Rex http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-44456 Rex Thu, 08 May 2008 16:39:35 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-44456 The cost of KVM switches, it's all depending on the grade of components and functions KVM manufacturers put on it accordingly. For example, for the DVI KVM switch, there are DVI-I, DVi-D, Dual-link or Single-link ... different DVI standards. If the DVI KVM switch can only support DVI-I spec, them it will cost less than KVM switch can support Dual-link DVI-D which can support much higher in video resolutions and it's all "digital" instead of "I" for "Integrated analog and digital". The other important factor will be the chip sets (both DVI chip and USB chip) the makers put on their switches. Some IC chips cost even triple than the low-end one. The cost of KVM switches, it’s all depending on the grade of components and functions KVM manufacturers put on it accordingly.

For example, for the DVI KVM switch, there are DVI-I, DVi-D, Dual-link or Single-link … different DVI standards. If the DVI KVM switch can only support DVI-I spec, them it will cost less than KVM switch can support Dual-link DVI-D which can support much higher in video resolutions and it’s all “digital” instead of “I” for “Integrated analog and digital”. The other important factor will be the chip sets (both DVI chip and USB chip) the makers put on their switches.
Some IC chips cost even triple than the low-end one.

]]> By: Hung http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-44295 Hung Thu, 08 May 2008 03:03:09 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-44295 I know cables in general are scams. I wasn't sure about switches. I mean, they're just switches! I learned about those in my circuits class way back when! I just figured they might have something special in them that requires some kind of thought. Maybe not. I guess it could just be demand vs. supply vs. no one buys these so jack up the price! I know cables in general are scams. I wasn’t sure about switches. I mean, they’re just switches! I learned about those in my circuits class way back when! I just figured they might have something special in them that requires some kind of thought. Maybe not. I guess it could just be demand vs. supply vs. no one buys these so jack up the price!

]]> By: Ender http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/2008/05/07/kvm-dvi-switches-why-so-expensive/comment-page-1/#comment-44289 Ender Thu, 08 May 2008 02:34:44 +0000 http://www.hung-truong.com/blog/?p=738#comment-44289 Paying $30-40 for a non-DVI KVM switch is already highway robbery from a technological standpoint, but not many ordinary consumers use them anymore. Add on DVI capability to the switch, and you have an even smaller pool of people who are interested - since like you said, a lot of folks can't distinguish the difference in visual quality. At least, that's my theory. Paying $30-40 for a non-DVI KVM switch is already highway robbery from a technological standpoint, but not many ordinary consumers use them anymore. Add on DVI capability to the switch, and you have an even smaller pool of people who are interested – since like you said, a lot of folks can’t distinguish the difference in visual quality. At least, that’s my theory.

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